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SubGenius.Finance => (OFF) Offerings to Cthulhu => Topic started by: SubGenius-Finance on Sep 17, 2026, 05:16 AM

Title: Autopsy: the original Offerings to Cthulhu thread, 2013-2018
Post by: SubGenius-Finance on Sep 17, 2026, 05:16 AM
We pulled the whole of the original (OFF) announcement thread on Bitcointalk, topic 294383, and counted it. 715 posts, opened 14 September 2013 by Blazr2, still receiving the occasional reply in 2026. This is what is actually in it.

The question we started with, and got wrong

The assumption going in was that the activity in that thread had been bought. Bounty campaigns and signature campaigns were standard practice for altcoin threads in that era. People were paid per post to keep a thread warm and on page one. If that is what happened here, the posting would stop dead the moment the payments did, and the thread would read like a payroll rather than a conversation.

The count does not support it. Across all 715 posts:


Filler is just as thin. In 705 posts before 2020, "good luck" appears 8 times, "nice coin" once, "moon" once, "bump" twice. A farmed thread is the inverse of this. It is hundreds of one-line good-luck-dev posts and campaign chatter, and there is almost none of it here.

What the population looks like

192 unique posters in the original era. 97 of them posted exactly once, which is 51% of the people but only 14% of the posts. That is the ordinary long tail of a forum, not a roster. Median post length is 62 characters. The most prolific poster is zeewolf with 53, ahead of Blazr2 who opened the thread with 35.

The first hours read like people, not like copy:

QuoteAll hail CthuluCoin!
QuoteVery creative I like it. So is it scrypt or what? Anymore nodes? I'm not getting a connection.
QuoteCan anyone post a getpeerinfo please?

Blazr2's answer to that last one is a raw getpeerinfo dump pasted into the thread so a stranger could find the network. Nobody is paid to do that.

The part that settles it

The thread kept going for years after there was anything left to promote. The last block of the original mining era was 17 June 2015. Posting continued anyway: 27 posts in June 2015, 27 in June 2017, 20 in May 2018.

June 2017 is people trying to keep a dead chain alive. zeewolf asking for help compiling the 1.7 wallet on Debian. Another poster watching the block explorer resync and noting, correctly, that it was worrying how only one node is supplying the chain.

May 2018 is people asking what happened to their coins on Cryptopia, and one poster defending the coin outright against the people writing it off.

Nobody pays for any of that. There was no price to defend and no thread position worth holding.

A correction we owe the record

Our own notes said zeewolf had scrubbed his Bitcointalk history. He has not. All 53 of his posts are still in the thread, running from October 2013 to September 2018, and he is the single most active voice in it. That claim came from an internal search returning nothing, which turned out to be a fact about the search and not about him.

What it means

The easy story is that the old thread was fake and the new one is real but empty. That is not what the data says. Both crowds are real. The difference is venue.

In 2013 every altcoin person on earth was reading one forum, so a chain with roughly 190 interested humans looked like a scene. That room is not where those people are anymore, and nothing replaced it. A project today is not competing against a bought audience. It is missing a place that the original got for free.

Which is a solvable problem, and a different one than it looks like from the outside.

Method

Every page of the thread was fetched and parsed into one record per post: author, date, message id, body, and length. Counts above are from that set, not from reading impressions. One trap worth passing on to anyone repeating this: Bitcointalk renders a poster's current signature on their old posts, so signature-campaign banners visible today prove nothing about what a thread looked like years ago. Any test of this kind has to run on post content and timing.